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Originally created by @jsguitarist1990 on GitHub (May 6, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/oerg866/win98-quickinstall/issues/37
When trying to partition the disc or install the cd-rom version of Windows 98 SE Quick Install I get this message every time. I'm utilizing a Dell Dimension 2400 with a sata to pci adapter with an ssd for a hard drive. I've used regular Windows 98 and Windows XP install disks and this process has worked with those. Is there a step or process that i'm missing? Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 6, 2025):
Can you maybe do a lspci -nnn?
And maybe a dmesg|less
And scroll if the kernel logs show something about the hard drives?
Thanks 👍
On Tue, May 6, 2025, 04:44 jsguitarist1990 @.***> wrote:
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 6, 2025):
I'm not sure what either one of those are. Are those commands in the diagnostic part of the install disc?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 6, 2025):
Yep if you drop to a diagnostic shell in the main menu
On Tue, May 6, 2025, 07:28 jsguitarist1990 @.***> wrote:
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 7, 2025):
So I put in the commands that you asked for and took a few photos of them. I'm not seeing anything that stands out about the hard drive or the PCI slots on this computer, but I may be looking for the wrong things? Do you see anything significant in the photos that could help? I'm a bit lost here.
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 7, 2025):
I've looked at it and from those logs it seems like the card doesn't find
the hard drive?!
In the normal SATA BIOS screen it shows up fine?
On Wed, May 7, 2025, 06:38 jsguitarist1990 @.***> wrote:
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 7, 2025):
In the bios it shows the hard drive as connected and it shows the brand and model as well. Also, this pci to sata adapter has the option to be turned on as a raid utility. Would that help the drive be seen in Quickinstall? OrShould I try running it with a IDE to Sata adapter instead? I have one of those too.
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 7, 2025):
You can do that, but I'm still curious why it doesn't find the disk. This
might be a linux driver bug....
Can you maybe try with Version 0.9.5? It uses a different kernel.
Thanks! :)
On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 08:13, jsguitarist1990 @.***>
wrote:
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 7, 2025):
Oh sorry, I meant 0.9.4 (https://archive.org/details/win98qi_v0.9.4)
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 8, 2025):
So it turns out that it that this quick install process only works with SATA to IDE adapters (at least for installation, the sata to PCI adapter might work after installation but I haven't tested this). I was able to get 9.6 micro to work after using the IDE to SATA adapter instead. You MUST use a jumper on IDE drive/adapter or it will not show up to have the OS installed if your IDE drive/adapter requires it. I'm gonna attempt to install the Dimension 2400 drivers and graphics drivers now and hopefully have sound/the graphics card working too.
I do have a question: Assuming I am able to use the SATA to PCI adapter after installing XP as well (I'm dual booting), would the computer be faster with the main harddrive attached to that instead of the IDE to SATA adapter? I'm not sure if PCI or IDE is faster?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 9, 2025):
In that system it may actually be that the onboard IDE is slightly faster
due to the more efficient connection between north bridge and south bridge,
avoiding the overhead of being an external PCI device...
A SSD should be able to saturate an ATA133 channel nicely, but a PCI sata
controller will top out at around 100 MB/s from my experience
On Thu, May 8, 2025, 17:47 jsguitarist1990 @.***> wrote:
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 11, 2025):
This might be a silly question, but is Directx already installed when you complete the quick install? And if so, what version?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 11, 2025):
In the 98SE stock version, it's 6.1 and in the micro versions it's 8.1 :)
On Sun, May 11, 2025, 03:24 jsguitarist1990 @.***>
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@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 11, 2025):
Oh ok, I was just curious since I'm having issues installing the driver for my graphics card, a Nvidia Geforce fx5500. My Dell Dimension 2400 keeps saying it has a driver conflict in startup and this appears in Device Manager. I've heard you have to use "setup.exe/p i" during installation but have no idea how to do this with quickinstall. I've also heard you can do a registry edit, but i don't know how to do that either?
Additionally, I'm not sure which nvidia software version I'm suppose to use, which one will help it be recognized and how do I stop the conflicting drivers popup on startup of the PC?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
Hello, the problem here looks like it's conflicting with the onboard video actually. Can you disable the onboard Intel graphics in the BIOS?
@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
I don't think there is an option in the Bios to do that, but I'll double check (Keep in mind this is a Dell Dimension 2400 so it doesn't have a lot special settings that something more expensive might have). If I can't do it there, would there be something else I can try?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
It's just a very finicky thing with win9x if there's multiple graphics
adapters it often doesn't play nice.
You can try disabling the other VGA device in the device manager but I
don't have any other advice here...
Fyi the reference images are set up with /p i already
On Mon, May 12, 2025, 17:24 jsguitarist1990 @.***>
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@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
Hmmm ok, I would like to point out that I didn't install the onboard graphics card driver prior to attempting to install the Nividia Geforce fx5500 card and it's driver. Should I attempt to install that first and then the fx5500, and then just disable the onboard card?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
You could but I honestly have my doubts that it will work properly...
On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 20:48, jsguitarist1990 @.***>
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@jsguitarist1990 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
What makes you say that? I know people have used this card with Windows 98 machines before, or is it my pc?
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 12, 2025):
I've also used this card successfully on 9x myself, but I have had unfixable problems with onboard-VGA that cannot be disabled before, and every time I went in the rabbit hole of trying to fix it I have lost a bit of my sanity in the process :D
@oerg866 commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
Closing since this is Microsoft Tech Support at this point and I can't do much here :)