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[GH-ISSUE #660] Not Backing up Outgoing SMS - S6 Marshmallow [Advanced Messaging] #560
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Originally created by @rpulsifer on GitHub (Jul 9, 2016).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/jberkel/sms-backup-plus/issues/660
SMSBackup+ has not been backing up but one or two (seemingly random) outgoing messages, grabs all incoming with no worries. Just for kicks I tried another app "SMS to Text" and it has the same problem - it can't "see" the outgoing SMS texts from the stock samsung messageing app. As it's across apps, is there a setting somewhere I'm missing?
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@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Aug 13, 2016):
Same issue on Samsung S7 (Samsung-SM-G930A), Android 6.0.1, AT&T (latest software update)
Android security patch level: July 1, 2016
Pre-existing Gmail backups from earlier Galaxy S5, Android 5.1, AT&T worked fine (full bi-directional SMS thread visible)
@johnpfaff commented on GitHub (Aug 18, 2016):
I've been having the same issue on Galaxy S7 Edge. Same AT&T and Android etc versions as @5GmeetsWebRTC. Even if I disconnect my Google account, reconnect, and say Backup all, it still doesn't catch the outgoing messages.
@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Aug 19, 2016):
I'm curious if this is being looked into...?
On Aug 18, 2016 4:37 PM, "John Pfaff" notifications@github.com wrote:
@rpulsifer commented on GitHub (Aug 19, 2016):
I havent heard a peep and i also submitted a tech support requesr to Samsung.
I have discovered thst it is mrssages with the "advanced messaging" attribute thst no one but the Samsung message app can read.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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Subject: Re: [jberkel/sms-backup-plus] Not Backing up Outgoing SMS - S6 Marshmallow (#660)
I'm curious if this is being looked into...?
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@sabasigh commented on GitHub (Sep 11, 2016):
So i have a S6 that went from 5.x to 6.x and this program still works.
Just got an S7 with 6.01 and sent sms does not back up, not even thru Exchange ActiveSync. However, when i told Google now to send a text...it sync'd.
Sent sms sent FROM THE PHONE do not sync in a program like MightyText either. Which works fine on my S6/6.01
@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Sep 11, 2016):
I'm not sure anyone monitors this or supports the app anymore. Too bad.
It was once a good app.
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@sabasigh commented on GitHub (Sep 11, 2016):
Agreed. Heck on the new phone i got it going to my Hotmail account. Recvd emails sync great, as does call logs.
@jberkel commented on GitHub (Sep 11, 2016):
Sorry, it's really difficult for me to fix these vendor specific problems without access to the phone itself. I would need some device logs, maybe somebody could provide them?
@sabasigh commented on GitHub (Sep 11, 2016):
hopefully this works:
sms_backup_plus[759628].txt
seems like all the backup types say INCOMING.
fyi the default keybd is Samsung on my S7. I switched to Google and still no luck.
@sabasigh commented on GitHub (Sep 12, 2016):
I turned off Adv Messaging and sent a test message from the phone and it sync'd. Sent another and it did NOT sync.
Keeping Adv Messaging off seems to be the key.
@DinaMalady1976 commented on GitHub (Feb 14, 2017):
I am having issues w/ the new Samsung Galaxy 6 software upgrade w/ my messages being uploaded to my email. Why am I having issues all of a sudden, it worked fine before the software update?
@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Feb 14, 2017):
Your not saying what the issue is. How can anyone reply?
On Feb 14, 2017 11:19 AM, "DinaMalady1976" notifications@github.com wrote:
@DinaMalady1976 commented on GitHub (Feb 26, 2017):
I apologize for not clarifying.....the app is not uploading my outgoing, incoming and MMS messages. It was working fine before. I manually backup and nothing is going to my email. I have a Samsung galaxy 6 phone on the AT&T network, and somewhere in the beginning of February w/ the newest software update I am unable to backup any of my messages. I hope this clarifies my message on 2/14/17. Can someone please help?, I have a lot of messages that I am afraid of losing.
@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Feb 26, 2017):
I joined this email thread on Aug 18, 2016 and have yet to hear anything
from anyone who "owns" this app. The only email traffic here is about
other people having same or similar issues, but not once has anyone
responsible for SMS Backup even acknowledged anything. I'll bet the team
has been disbanded and nobody is updating or fixing the code anymore - not
sure, but just a hunch.
Have anyone found an alternative application to backup SMS and MMS messages
(that truly works), both send and receive? Back in August, when I looked
around online, I didn't find anything that really seemed to work. All apps
had serious complaints against them. I find it odd that nobody is able to
solve this problem. I'd even PAY for an app, if it truly worked.
-chris
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@nottellling commented on GitHub (Jun 2, 2017):
I've got a solution.
Try "legal text collector"
Worked for me and the dev was totally responsive, and helped fix a couple bugs the same day.
@aznative77 commented on GitHub (Jun 27, 2017):
I had the same issue, but it wasn't only sms backup+ that was having issues. I have a SG5 on the T-Mobile network. The texts that weren't getting backed up were the one from others on the T-Mobile network. Someone above mentioned Advanced Messaging. I found that if I turn off my Voice over LTE Preferred setting that this and my other program now work correctly. I can only assume that with that feature turned on that it routes it through other channels. I haven't been able to determine any adverse effects so far other than not knowing if the other person is actively typing a message, but I don't care about that anyway. If you do find a way to keep this setting turned on and still log please let us know, but other than that I'm happy for now.
@jorpz commented on GitHub (Jul 28, 2017):
I guess the issue is that for the "advanced messages" there is some kind of flag set. One would assume that if one were able to extract the mmssms.db file then the advanced messages would also be present. I don't know why the Samsung app to transfer the messages can't parse them, but it appears there is no product on the market (aside from the guy 2 comments up that is spamming every single thread like this anywhere on the internet) that can read them.
@jberkel does this sound like a reasonable assumption on my part? And would it be possible to code support for this flag if that's actually how it is working?
Unfortunately to get mmssms.db now you have to be rooted and I do not currently have that option without also losing the texts
The program has worked for me for all of my phones up until now when I try to move from an AT&T S7 Edge to S8+ (I enabled advanced messaging without realizing it would cause such an issue) and I would love to continue to use it.
@jberkel commented on GitHub (Mar 28, 2018):
@taqsuqs I think you're right:
https://github.com/jberkel/sms-backup-plus#rich-communication-services
@tylerseitz commented on GitHub (Jun 29, 2018):
Any chance that advanced message backups will be added at some point in the future? What could be done to motivate people into looking into and implementing this feature?
@Chris4BAM commented on GitHub (Jun 30, 2018):
Hi Jan,
this is Chris. I may be interested to help with device logs. If you are
interested, contact me at: chris.covfefe@gmail.com
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM Jan Berkel notifications@github.com
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@kurahaupo commented on GitHub (Dec 24, 2019):
I've created #1005 as a feature request to track this.
As I've mentioned there, Google have yet to provide an RCS API for third-party use, however they have been giving indications since the beginning of this year that something will be made available to third-party developers "soon".
In the meantime, there is now an Open Source implementation which might suffice.
Closing this ticket; refer to #1005 for further updates.