#1153 - [GH-ISSUE #2830] Innocent Life - Crashes the emulator when starting a new game or loading a save. - starred/ppsspp

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Originally created by @andoruB on GitHub (Jul 18, 2013).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/issues/2830

[Continued from this thread: http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=4644]
[Also continued from this issue: https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/issues/2027
Started a new one as the previous one was confronting a different problem that's now obsolete]

I've tried now with v0.8.1-632-g05dfd27 and v0.8.1-633-g6cc141a, things are not fixed as of yet either.
Loading a savegame still crashes the emulator same as going through the intro again, and crashes before entering the Ruins area.
What's different from previous versions is that the colours are more vibrant now, and they look more closer to how they are on a real PSP. Also something that's changed, but not in good is that when the HUD is displayed on-screen, the game slows down by 10-20VPS, still playable (at least in the intro). This also happens when there are more than 3 peeps on-screen. I'm not sure if this is actually how the emu behaves or because I still had to limit the CPU frequency to 80 (to be able to pass through the FMV at the beginning). Also the text seems to flicker and morph a lot on the screen (turning into a lower-res font and back). This flicker happens almost constantly with punctuation from what I observed.

Innocent Life - USA 1.00 / EUR 1.02 / HK 1.00 / JP 1.01

Originally created by @andoruB on GitHub (Jul 18, 2013). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/issues/2830 [Continued from this thread: http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=4644] [Also continued from this issue: https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/issues/2027 Started a new one as the previous one was confronting a different problem that's now obsolete] I've tried now with v0.8.1-632-g05dfd27 and v0.8.1-633-g6cc141a, things are not fixed as of yet either. Loading a savegame still crashes the emulator same as going through the intro again, and crashes before entering the Ruins area. What's different from previous versions is that the colours are more vibrant now, and they look more closer to how they are on a real PSP. Also something that's changed, but not in good is that when the HUD is displayed on-screen, the game slows down by 10-20VPS, still playable (at least in the intro). This also happens when there are more than 3 peeps on-screen. I'm not sure if this is actually how the emu behaves or because I still had to limit the CPU frequency to 80 (to be able to pass through the FMV at the beginning). Also the text seems to flicker and morph a lot on the screen (turning into a lower-res font and back). This flicker happens almost constantly with punctuation from what I observed. ## Innocent Life - [USA 1.00](http://report.ppsspp.org/game/ULUS10219_1.00) / [EUR 1.02](http://report.ppsspp.org/game/ULES00658_1.02) / [HK 1.00](http://report.ppsspp.org/game/ULKS46167_1.00) / [JP 1.01](http://report.ppsspp.org/game/ULJS00119_1.01)

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@hmfreak commented on GitHub (Jul 21, 2013):

attention needed ... sorry i know its not useful but i wait for the fix for so long already ...

@hmfreak commented on GitHub (Jul 21, 2013): attention needed ... sorry i know its not useful but i wait for the fix for so long already ...

kerem commented

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013):

Can you test this in the latest git build with reporting enabled? Ideally with default settings. A new log would be helpful.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013): Can you test this in the latest git build with reporting enabled? Ideally with default settings. A new log would be helpful. -[Unknown]

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013):

Not sure what reporting is and where to find it (maybe it's a build command? )
But here are the logs with the latest Windows build ATM (v0.9.1-454-ge07b581)
Loading from a savegame - https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6413880#file-gistfile1-txt
Starting a new game and going through the intro - https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6413868#file-gistfile1-txt

Changes in this new version are the intro being fixed (no longer choppy because of the title music) and the emu doesn't quit once it encounters the problem.
But still can't play the game beyond going out of the cave and/or loading a saved game.

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013): Not sure what reporting is and where to find it (maybe it's a build command? ) But here are the logs with the latest Windows build ATM (v0.9.1-454-ge07b581) Loading from a savegame - https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6413880#file-gistfile1-txt Starting a new game and going through the intro - https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6413868#file-gistfile1-txt Changes in this new version are the intro being fixed (no longer choppy because of the title music) and the emu doesn't quit once it encounters the problem. But still can't play the game beyond going out of the cave and/or loading a saved game.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013):

And it works with dynarec disabled (just slow)?

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013): And it works with dynarec disabled (just slow)? -[Unknown]

kerem commented

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013):

Nope, doesn't work with or without JIT.

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 2, 2013): Nope, doesn't work with or without JIT.

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

Seems I got no answers so far. Do you know exactly what causes this, or what I could try further to find out the problem?
EDIT: Tried with PPSSPP v0.9.1-487-g728e1a5, still no change.

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): Seems I got no answers so far. Do you know exactly what causes this, or what I could try further to find out the problem? EDIT: Tried with PPSSPP v0.9.1-487-g728e1a5, still no change.

kerem commented

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

Have no idea what exactly causes this. If I did, I'd be suggesting things for sure.

Reporting is a setting under System. If it won't let you enable it, change Rendering Mode to "Buffered Rendering." The "Read Framebuffers to Memory" options cause bugs and crashes in many games.

Make sure you have "Fast Memory" disabled.

Also try disabling the atrac plugin.

To confirm, the crash is PPSSPP crashing, right? Are you able to use a compiler or debugger? I don't have this game, but if you were able to get me a stack trace, it might lead to a fix. There's a topic on the forum for compiling on Windows and getting one, I think.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): Have no idea what exactly causes this. If I did, I'd be suggesting things for sure. Reporting is a setting under System. If it won't let you enable it, change Rendering Mode to "Buffered Rendering." The "Read Framebuffers to Memory" options cause bugs and crashes in many games. Make sure you have "Fast Memory" disabled. Also try disabling the atrac plugin. To confirm, the crash is PPSSPP crashing, right? Are you able to use a compiler or debugger? I don't have this game, but if you were able to get me a stack trace, it might lead to a fix. There's a topic on the forum for compiling on Windows and getting one, I think. -[Unknown]

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

I meant mostly for you to suggest me to try things for debugging ^^;
But nevermind about that =)

You mean Compatibility Server Reports? I have that enabled. Also I can't run the game with Buffered mode on as it's too slow on my machine due to some reasons.
Fast Memory is disabled here and I also tried disabling both Atrac and sound and it still doesn't work.

I'm not sure what you mean with the PPSSPP question. By stack trace you mean to do a copy from Debugger? In that case I gave you one a few weeks ago and you said it was just a Bad Jump to which you didn't comment further.
But anyway, I'll try to make another dump: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6429119 =)

Also, wouldn't it be easier if I sent you my copy? ^^

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): I meant mostly for you to suggest me to try things for debugging ^^; But nevermind about that =) You mean Compatibility Server Reports? I have that enabled. Also I can't run the game with Buffered mode on as it's too slow on my machine due to some reasons. Fast Memory is disabled here and I also tried disabling both Atrac and sound and it still doesn't work. I'm not sure what you mean with the PPSSPP question. By stack trace you mean to do a copy from Debugger? In that case I gave you one a few weeks ago and you said it was just a Bad Jump to which you didn't comment further. But anyway, I'll try to make another dump: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6429119 =) Also, wouldn't it be easier if I sent you my copy? ^^

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

Well, that's from the disasm, but that didn't really tell me anything except that it probably shouldn't be going there in the first place.

I don't think you can send me your copy unless you plan to destroy all your own copies of it or it's a demo.

-[Unknown]

@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): Well, that's from the disasm, but that didn't really tell me anything except that it probably shouldn't be going there in the first place. I don't think you can send me your copy unless you plan to destroy all your own copies of it or it's a demo. -[Unknown]

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

What would a stack trace be?

Why destroying my copy? I'm confused.

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): What would a stack trace be? Why destroying my copy? I'm confused.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

Well, maybe a stack wouldn't help if it's just jumping to outer space anyway. Grr.

Well, obviously, it wouldn't be okay for me to obtain an illegal copy of the game, so the only way for you to give it to me is if you don't have it anymore afterward. I don't think that makes much sense here.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): Well, maybe a stack wouldn't help if it's just jumping to outer space anyway. Grr. Well, obviously, it wouldn't be okay for me to obtain an illegal copy of the game, so the only way for you to give it to me is if you don't have it anymore afterward. I don't think that makes much sense here. -[Unknown]

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013):

That's quite a bummer =/

So there isn't any fix for bad jumps? Perhaps I would need to obtain a different version of the game?

I'd rather think that those copyright laws are plain dumb, if not borderline insane, but that's IMO =)

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2013): That's quite a bummer =/ So there isn't any fix for bad jumps? Perhaps I would need to obtain a different version of the game? I'd rather think that those copyright laws are plain dumb, if not borderline insane, but that's IMO =)

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@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 5, 2013):

I still didn't get the answer if Compatibility Server Reports is what you meant earlier...
Also I tried to play the EU and JP versions of the game on v0.9.1-580-g515874c and they both have the same problem.

I managed to save the log and copied the diasm from the debug window while trying the latter (I didn't think of saving the log when trying the EU version since i thought it would be similar, but if needed I'll try that one again)

Here's the log: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6452961
Block 08a30000: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6452981
Block 08a3076c: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6453015 (I started a bit earlier than the block itself, since there was more stuff in the other block, this block starts with the beql thing)

EDIT: Sorry for closing the issue and reopening it, the button is annoyingly close to the submit button.

@andoruB commented on GitHub (Sep 5, 2013): I still didn't get the answer if Compatibility Server Reports is what you meant earlier... Also I tried to play the EU and JP versions of the game on v0.9.1-580-g515874c and they both have the same problem. I managed to save the log and copied the diasm from the debug window while trying the latter (I didn't think of saving the log when trying the EU version since i thought it would be similar, but if needed I'll try that one again) Here's the log: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6452961 Block 08a30000: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6452981 Block 08a3076c: https://gist.github.com/andoruB/6453015 (I started a bit earlier than the block itself, since there was more stuff in the other block, this block starts with the beql thing) EDIT: Sorry for closing the issue and reopening it, the button is annoyingly close to the submit button.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Nov 25, 2013):

It seems like it no longer crashes according to the forum:
http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=4644&page=2

But new games afaiu still do hang "at the island." I suspect it's audio related, above I'm asking for JpcspTrace logs.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Nov 25, 2013): It seems like it no longer crashes according to the forum: http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=4644&page=2 But new games afaiu still do hang "at the island." I suspect it's audio related, above I'm asking for JpcspTrace logs. -[Unknown]

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@hrydgard commented on GitHub (Jan 2, 2014):

This is from yanthey's original email:

Henrik , i have report, i can make ppsspp running innocent life a futuristic harvestmoon.. 
I using save file, download from gamefaqs..
First, save states the games, and than download save file, and know ,rename save file like save state. 
Examples      ULUS10219DATA00 ( just rename ULUS10219 only) :) relax!!

It's a little confused but gives me the impression that there might be a savegame name issue, concatenating with DATA00 when it shouldn't?

@hrydgard commented on GitHub (Jan 2, 2014): This is from yanthey's original email: ``` Henrik , i have report, i can make ppsspp running innocent life a futuristic harvestmoon.. I using save file, download from gamefaqs.. First, save states the games, and than download save file, and know ,rename save file like save state. Examples ULUS10219DATA00 ( just rename ULUS10219 only) :) relax!! ``` It's a little confused but gives me the impression that there might be a savegame name issue, concatenating with DATA00 when it shouldn't?

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2014):

Per #2384, this could be mpeg/audio related, but as mentioned that could just be a side effect of some savedata issue.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2014): Per #2384, this could be mpeg/audio related, but as mentioned that could just be a side effect of some savedata issue. -[Unknown]

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014):

I don't sucess his method (USA version)

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014): I don't sucess his method (USA version)

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@dbz400 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014):

Just tried this game .Start new game is not working and hangs right after here "Island" and audio also has delay issue.

If loading save from gamefaqs , it is working fine.

@dbz400 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014): Just tried this game .Start new game is not working and hangs right after here "Island" and audio also has delay issue. ![screen00028](https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/3000282/2179760/afecd19c-96d3-11e3-85e4-501178027f9a.jpg) If loading save from gamefaqs , it is working fine. ![screen00025](https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/3000282/2179761/c3a7f536-96d3-11e3-9e2d-f7b1ad1a0417.jpg) ![screen00026](https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/3000282/2179762/c3ee6e58-96d3-11e3-9f97-7cbcedb2ed8d.jpg)

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014):

On the forum, someone said that adjusting the clock speed to just the right value helped. So this is likely timing related somehow.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014): On the forum, someone said that adjusting the clock speed to just the right value helped. So this is likely timing related somehow. -[Unknown]

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014):

The sound of the video have problem.

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2014): The sound of the video have problem.

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@burnt01 commented on GitHub (Aug 16, 2014):

I set the cpu to 60mhz speed and it sorts it (actually tuned it down to 56 and its better)

@burnt01 commented on GitHub (Aug 16, 2014): I set the cpu to 60mhz speed and it sorts it (actually tuned it down to 56 and its better)

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014):

@unknownbrackets Hope you find something in the log

PPSSPP v0.9.9-84-g37b8f62
cpu 0 log: (bad)
Info log:https://gist.github.com/sum2012/acce6ef441daf82b76a7
Debug log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kaWJ1Q005U0VNd3M/edit?usp=sharing

cpu 56 log:(good)
Info log: https://gist.github.com/sum2012/c80b491e8f25cf394185
Debug log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kcGg2bFF0WEl4a1k/edit?usp=sharing

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014): @unknownbrackets Hope you find something in the log PPSSPP v0.9.9-84-g37b8f62 cpu 0 log: (bad) Info log:https://gist.github.com/sum2012/acce6ef441daf82b76a7 Debug log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kaWJ1Q005U0VNd3M/edit?usp=sharing cpu 56 log:(good) Info log: https://gist.github.com/sum2012/c80b491e8f25cf394185 Debug log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kcGg2bFF0WEl4a1k/edit?usp=sharing

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014):

Media log:
cpu 0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8keFVka1N2T182ck0/edit?usp=sharing
cpu 56:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kX0RqdzgtYjFwQW8/edit?usp=sharing

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014): Media log: cpu 0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8keFVka1N2T182ck0/edit?usp=sharing cpu 56: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kX0RqdzgtYjFwQW8/edit?usp=sharing

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014):

cpu 0:
PlayMovie (4) -> 12:02:034 at3 thread0 D[ME]: HLE\sceAtrac.cpp:719 00000000=sceAtracDecodeData(0, 08b76dc0, 08b7ade4[00000800], 08b7ade8[00000000], 08b7ade0[-1])

cpu 56:
PlayMovie (4) -> PlayMovie (5)

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014): cpu 0: PlayMovie (4) -> 12:02:034 at3 thread0 D[ME]: HLE\sceAtrac.cpp:719 00000000=sceAtracDecodeData(0, 08b76dc0, 08b7ade4[00000800], 08b7ade8[00000000], 08b7ade0[-1]) cpu 56: PlayMovie (4) -> PlayMovie (5)

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014):

JPCSP match PPSSPP 'S cpu 56 behavior
JPCSP log:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kN3p4VXlHR0ZnT2c/edit?usp=sharing

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Aug 17, 2014): JPCSP match PPSSPP 'S cpu 56 behavior JPCSP log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kN3p4VXlHR0ZnT2c/edit?usp=sharing

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@daniel229 commented on GitHub (Aug 19, 2014):

@unknownbrackets ' io-minor2 branch fixes the video problem.

@daniel229 commented on GitHub (Aug 19, 2014): @unknownbrackets ' io-minor2 branch fixes the video problem.

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015):

I test Host timing and Simulate UMD delays help this game

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015): I test Host timing and Simulate UMD delays help this game

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015):

This part is from the other issue, just so it doesn't get lost:

In sceIo.cpp, under __IoRead, there are these lines:

    // Low estimate, may be improved later from the ReadFile result.
    us = size / 100;
    if (us < 100) {
        us = 100;
    }

This is different:

How low do you have to make the "/ 100" part for it to work? Or does size / 1 not even work (maybe it's like the Pangya issue, then)?

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015): This part is from the other issue, just so it doesn't get lost: In sceIo.cpp, under `__IoRead`, there are these lines: ``` c++ // Low estimate, may be improved later from the ReadFile result. us = size / 100; if (us < 100) { us = 100; } ``` This is different: How low do you have to make the "/ 100" part for it to work? Or does `size / 1` not even work (maybe it's like the Pangya issue, then)? -[Unknown]

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015):

How low do you have to make the "/ 100" part for it to work?
I don't mean it

 size / 1 doesn't work

Use v0.9.9.1-1586-g502614b orignal code:

fast (bad):
log:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kSXNPOURuVmlnZ2s/view?usp=sharing

Host(good):
log:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kbFV3U0ZfeWEzMFk/view?usp=sharing

Simulate UMD delays (good):
log:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kV09hRVJaOXQyZW8/view?usp=sharing

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2015): > How low do you have to make the "/ 100" part for it to work? > I don't mean it ``` size / 1 doesn't work ``` Use v0.9.9.1-1586-g502614b orignal code: fast (bad): log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kSXNPOURuVmlnZ2s/view?usp=sharing Host(good): log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kbFV3U0ZfeWEzMFk/view?usp=sharing Simulate UMD delays (good): log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kV09hRVJaOXQyZW8/view?usp=sharing

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 21, 2017):

@benderscruffy As this game is IO timing related.
You need to log again with time parameter.
eg: sceMpegAtracDecode 0x800C44DF change to sceMpegAtracDecode 0x800C44DF !0
sceMpegAvcConvertToYuv420 0XF5E7EA31 change to sceMpegAvcConvertToYuv420 0XF5E7EA31 !0
other scempeg functions same change

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 21, 2017): @benderscruffy As this game is IO timing related. You need to log again with time parameter. eg: sceMpegAtracDecode 0x800C44DF change to sceMpegAtracDecode 0x800C44DF !0 sceMpegAvcConvertToYuv420 0XF5E7EA31 change to sceMpegAvcConvertToYuv420 0XF5E7EA31 !0 other scempeg functions same change

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 23, 2017):

Your jpcsp trace does not update to day.
Can you update first https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kSWw5QjNSbk5Bb1k/view?usp=sharing ,then log again ?

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 23, 2017): Your jpcsp trace does not update to day. Can you update first https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3OaSdeV0L8kSWw5QjNSbk5Bb1k/view?usp=sharing ,then log again ?

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2017):

@benderscruffy Sorry,the newest version should have in & out.
Not sure what 's problem.
I would log again with myself

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2017): @benderscruffy Sorry,the newest version should have in & out. Not sure what 's problem. I would log again with myself

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 28, 2017):

@benderscruffy Thanks,I forget ! parameter should be "0 !"
I have tried changed the speed,but still fail
github.com/sum2012/ppsspp@6afcee46fe

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Feb 28, 2017): @benderscruffy Thanks,I forget ! parameter should be "0 !" I have tried changed the speed,but still fail https://github.com/sum2012/ppsspp/commit/6afcee46fe25aefdf4bc48c7efde4daeb13420e8

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@elestopa commented on GitHub (Mar 20, 2017):

Hi. I've managed to make it work (tested on Android 5.0.1, build v1.3-1030-gfa9f8f6). You have to load a state saved from any region (I use a USA with ISO EUR), then you have to exit the game and start it again without closing PPSSPP, and normally start a new game by choosing the name you want, pressing the start button And then press and hold the turbo button. After finishing the video of the island you can continue playing.

Note: When you load the saved state from different region, it will load in that language, but upon restarting the game, the language will be that of the ISO region.
If the saved state file is of different region, you have to rename it to be compatible.

Sorry, I'm using a translator. I hope you understand. :)

@elestopa commented on GitHub (Mar 20, 2017): Hi. I've managed to make it work (tested on Android 5.0.1, build v1.3-1030-gfa9f8f6). You have to load a state saved from any region (I use a USA with ISO EUR), then you have to exit the game and start it again without closing PPSSPP, and normally start a new game by choosing the name you want, pressing the start button And then press and hold the turbo button. After finishing the video of the island you can continue playing. Note: When you load the saved state from different region, it will load in that language, but upon restarting the game, the language will be that of the ISO region. If the saved state file is of different region, you have to rename it to be compatible. Sorry, I'm using a translator. I hope you understand. :)

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2026-03-17 20:09:18 +03:00

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@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 20, 2017):

Why don't we just set simulate umd delays as default? Pretty sure this wasn't the only game that requires it and it's definitely more proper than keeping it at fast and trying to find different problem blaming potentially unrelated things and finding weird workarounds just to keep less correct IO timing.

@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 20, 2017): Why don't we just set simulate umd delays as default? Pretty sure this wasn't the only game that requires it and it's definitely more proper than keeping it at fast and trying to find different problem blaming potentially unrelated things and finding weird workarounds just to keep less correct IO timing.

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2026-03-17 20:09:23 +03:00

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017):

Don't they break other games? I thought it was a "win some, lose some" trade off, at best. Also, assuming we correctly emulated UMD load times, that can sometimes be annoying.

If you have the iso on your memory stick on a real PSP, you don't have "UMD delays." So if this game works on a real PSP in that way, then we shouldn't need "full" UMD delays to solve the bug.

I would argue our default timing should strive to simulate the behavior of a PSP with the data on a class 10 memory stick, and UMD delays should strive to simulate the behavior with a UMD inserted. So in theory, we should be able to have "correct timing" for both settings.

But, if more things work with UMD delays, I'm fine with changing the default.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017): Don't they break other games? I thought it was a "win some, lose some" trade off, at best. Also, assuming we correctly emulated UMD load times, that can sometimes be annoying. If you have the iso on your memory stick on a real PSP, you don't have "UMD delays." So if this game works on a real PSP in that way, then we shouldn't need "full" UMD delays to solve the bug. I would argue our default timing should strive to simulate the behavior of a PSP with the data on a class 10 memory stick, and UMD delays should strive to simulate the behavior with a UMD inserted. So in theory, we should be able to have "correct timing" for both settings. But, if more things work with UMD delays, I'm fine with changing the default. -[Unknown]

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:28 +03:00

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@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017):

Even if it's still a tradeoff it definitelly helps more than breaks compared to fast. I use it all the time from quite some time and didn't really had any problems caused by it yet. Loading speed for the most part is not noticeable and for most annoying cases unthrottle works best anyway.

@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017): Even if it's still a tradeoff it definitelly helps more than breaks compared to fast. I use it all the time from quite some time and didn't really had any problems caused by it yet. Loading speed for the most part is not noticeable and for most annoying cases unthrottle works best anyway.

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:33 +03:00

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017):

Okay, although I'd say it's a bug that loading speed is not affected. Simulate UMD delays fails to simulate some of the delays it should.

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@unknownbrackets commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017): Okay, although I'd say it's a bug that loading speed is not affected. Simulate UMD delays fails to simulate some of the delays it should. -[Unknown]

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:38 +03:00

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@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017):

I think time is on many screens bottlenecked by animations which in most cases takes more time than reading files. So the difference does exist, I would say it's around 10% at best through, mostly on non animated loading screens or where animation doesn't drag longer than it needs to.
Both are much faster than loading from memstick on real psp(can't say I ever invested in fastest ones and don't have psp anymore to really check:P), so the option definitely doesn't simulate whole "UMD experience", but does improve timings enough to matter in those buggy games that depend on it.

This video seems to have a nice comparison for boot times, the same thing in ppsspp using standard hdd would last just slightly above 20s with maybe like 2s of a difference between settings.

@LunaMoo commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2017): I think time is on many screens bottlenecked by animations which in most cases takes more time than reading files. So the difference does exist, I would say it's around 10% at best through, mostly on non animated loading screens or where animation doesn't drag longer than it needs to. Both are much faster than loading from memstick on real psp(can't say I ever invested in fastest ones and don't have psp anymore to really check:P), so the option definitely doesn't simulate whole "UMD experience", but does improve timings enough to matter in those buggy games that depend on it. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vM0_4SNWfM) seems to have a nice comparison for boot times, the same thing in ppsspp using standard hdd would last just slightly above 20s with maybe like 2s of a difference between settings.

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:43 +03:00

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@ghost commented on GitHub (Nov 11, 2018):

Issue still happen

@ghost commented on GitHub (Nov 11, 2018): Issue still happen

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:48 +03:00

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@Panderner commented on GitHub (Apr 17, 2020):

I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP

@Panderner commented on GitHub (Apr 17, 2020): I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:53 +03:00

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@ghost commented on GitHub (Apr 17, 2020):

I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP

What part of this game it will crash!?

@ghost commented on GitHub (Apr 17, 2020): > I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP What part of this game it will crash!?

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:09:58 +03:00

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@Panderner commented on GitHub (Apr 18, 2020):

I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP

What part of this game it will crash!?

After the cutscene when I starting the game.

@Panderner commented on GitHub (Apr 18, 2020): > > I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP > > What part of this game it will crash!? After the cutscene when I starting the game.

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:10:03 +03:00

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@ghost commented on GitHub (Apr 18, 2020):

I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP

What part of this game it will crash!?

After the cutscene when I starting the game.

Not crashing on my phone i set the I/O TIMING METHOD to UMD DELAYS :)

@ghost commented on GitHub (Apr 18, 2020): > > > I wonder why this game crashed due to sceMpegAvcInitYCbCr and sceMpegAvcDecodeStopYCbCr are not implemented on PPSSPP > > > > > > What part of this game it will crash!? > > After the cutscene when I starting the game. Not crashing on my phone i set the I/O TIMING METHOD to UMD DELAYS :)

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:10:08 +03:00

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@ghost commented on GitHub (May 3, 2020):

Why don't we just set simulate umd delays as default? Pretty sure this wasn't the only game that requires it and it's definitely more proper than keeping it at fast and trying to find different problem blaming potentially unrelated things and finding weird workarounds just to keep less correct IO timing.

@hrydgard why not added this game to ForceUMDDelay compat?

@ghost commented on GitHub (May 3, 2020): > Why don't we just set simulate umd delays as default? Pretty sure this wasn't the only game that requires it and it's definitely more proper than keeping it at fast and trying to find different problem blaming potentially unrelated things and finding weird workarounds just to keep less correct IO timing. @hrydgard why not added this game to ForceUMDDelay compat?

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:10:14 +03:00

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@hrydgard commented on GitHub (May 3, 2020):

Good question, we probably should just do that. I'll take care of it.

@hrydgard commented on GitHub (May 3, 2020): Good question, we probably should just do that. I'll take care of it.

kerem commented

2026-03-17 20:10:19 +03:00

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@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2022):

I think that we might live our hack code forever

@sum2012 commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2022): I think that we might live our hack code forever

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