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[GH-ISSUE #176] Floccus (XBEL) is spamming the Nextcloud activity stream #168

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opened 2026-02-25 22:36:21 +03:00 by kerem · 7 comments

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Originally created by @marcelschmidtdev on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/floccusaddon/floccus/issues/176

Software versions

Browser: Firefox 62.0.2
Nextcloud: 13.0.6
Nextcloud Bookmarks app: 0.12.2
Floccus: 3.0.8

Steps to reproduce

Use XBEL in Webdav adapter
Sync bookmarks
Use it for a while, add/remove bookmarks, don't change anything for a couple of days

Expected outcome

Lock file activity should be excluded from Activity stream
XBEL file should only be changed if a new bookmark was added or removed

Actual outcome

Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted.
Also the XBEL file with the bookmarks was changed a lot, although no changes were made in my browser.

Originally created by @marcelschmidtdev on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/floccusaddon/floccus/issues/176  ### Software versions  * Browser: Firefox 62.0.2 * Nextcloud: 13.0.6 * Nextcloud Bookmarks app: 0.12.2 * Floccus: 3.0.8 ### Steps to reproduce  1. Use XBEL in Webdav adapter 2. Sync bookmarks 3. Use it for a while, add/remove bookmarks, don't change anything for a couple of days ### Expected outcome  1. Lock file activity should be excluded from Activity stream 2. XBEL file should only be changed if a new bookmark was added or removed ### Actual outcome  Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted. Also the XBEL file with the bookmarks was changed a lot, although no changes were made in my browser.

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@jlbprof commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018):

Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted.

What do you mean by that?

The typical process is:

Check for the presence of the xbel.lock file.
If it is there, wait and try again in awhile (another browser could be
syncing)
If at the end of the try period, it is still there it gives up.

Otherwise fi the file is NOT there, it will create it
When the sync process is complete it is deleted.

Is the xbel.lock file still present on your Nextcloud?

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Software versions

Browser: Firefox 62.0.2

Nextcloud: 13.0.6

Nextcloud Bookmarks app: 0.12.2

Floccus: 3.0.8

Steps to reproduce

Use XBEL in Webdav adapter

Sync bookmarks

Use it for a while, add/remove bookmarks, don't change anything for
a couple of days

Expected outcome

Lock file activity should be excluded from Activity stream

XBEL file should only be changed if a new bookmark was added or
removed

Actual outcome

Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted.
Also the XBEL file with the bookmarks was changed a lot, although no
changes were made in my browser.

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@jlbprof commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018): >Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted. What do you mean by that? The typical process is: 1) Check for the presence of the xbel.lock file. 2) If it is there, wait and try again in awhile (another browser could be syncing) 3) If at the end of the try period, it is still there it gives up. Otherwise fi the file is NOT there, it will create it When the sync process is complete it is deleted. Is the xbel.lock file still present on your Nextcloud? On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:27 AM Marcel Schmidt <notifications@github.com> wrote: > Software versions > > - Browser: Firefox 62.0.2 > - Nextcloud: 13.0.6 > - Nextcloud Bookmarks app: 0.12.2 > - Floccus: 3.0.8 > > Steps to reproduce > > 1. Use XBEL in Webdav adapter > 2. Sync bookmarks > 3. Use it for a while, add/remove bookmarks, don't change anything for > a couple of days > > Expected outcome > > 1. Lock file activity should be excluded from Activity stream > 2. XBEL file should only be changed if a new bookmark was added or > removed > > Actual outcome > > Nextcloud activity stream is spammed with "XBEL.lock file created/deleted. > Also the XBEL file with the bookmarks was changed a lot, although no > changes were made in my browser. > > — > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <https://github.com/marcelklehr/floccus/issues/176>, or mute the thread > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJS39euafOleWnc3RSfzYU8h9gxCN28Bks5ugcPJgaJpZM4XBguP> > . >

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@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018):

I attached a screenshot of my activity stream. This is only the last couple of hours.
I did not change any bookmark but the lock file is still created and the XBEL file was changed for some reason. This makes the activity feature unusable for me.

@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018): ![screenshot 2018-10-01 at 14 23 01](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10891885/46288304-8a838f00-c585-11e8-928c-dcbdbeac108b.png) I attached a screenshot of my activity stream. This is only the last couple of hours. I did not change any bookmark but the lock file is still created and the XBEL file was changed for some reason. This makes the activity feature unusable for me.

kerem commented

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@marcelklehr commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018):

The only entries we can reasonably get rid of are the mutations XBEL file even though nothing has changed. The lock file needs to be used because nextcloud doesn't offer native locking via DAV: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/1308

@marcelklehr commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018): The only entries we can reasonably get rid of are the mutations XBEL file even though nothing has changed. The lock file needs to be used because nextcloud doesn't offer native locking via DAV: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/1308

kerem commented

2026-02-25 22:36:21 +03:00

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@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018):

Nice, that would be a good start to reduce the noise 👍
Is it possible to only create the lock file after we've checked for changes and are about to apply them?
Thanks for your help.

@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018): Nice, that would be a good start to reduce the noise 👍 Is it possible to only create the lock file after we've checked for changes and are about to apply them? Thanks for your help.

kerem commented

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@marcelklehr commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018):

The problem is that the algorithm effectively uses a diff to determine the changes as neither the browser nor the XBEL file track changes. So, we only know whether something has to be updated on the server once we have downloaded the file. But if we do need to update the file on the server we need to make sure it hasn't changed since we downloaded it. We can only do that by setting a lock before downloading. In any case, If you have nextcloud installed, I generally recommend using the bookmarks app, if there's nothing to be said against it.

@marcelklehr commented on GitHub (Oct 1, 2018): The problem is that the algorithm effectively uses a diff to determine the changes as neither the browser nor the XBEL file track changes. So, we only know whether something has to be updated on the server once we have downloaded the file. But if we do need to update the file on the server we need to make sure it hasn't changed since we downloaded it. We can only do that by setting a lock *before* downloading. In any case, If you have nextcloud installed, I generally recommend using the bookmarks app, if there's nothing to be said against it.

kerem commented

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@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 2, 2018):

That makes sense, thank you for clarification. Using a file is just more convenient for me, especially restoring a backup from a single file which is under Nextcloud version control is easier then restoring the MySQL database.

@marcelschmidtdev commented on GitHub (Oct 2, 2018): That makes sense, thank you for clarification. Using a file is just more convenient for me, especially restoring a backup from a single file which is under Nextcloud version control is easier then restoring the MySQL database.

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