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Originally created by @majkinetor on GitHub (Feb 1, 2021).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/1Remote/1Remote/issues/72

Originally assigned to: @VShawn on GitHub.

App should be ported to .NET 5 as it is the only version of net moving forward.

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Originally created by @majkinetor on GitHub (Feb 1, 2021). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/1Remote/1Remote/issues/72 Originally assigned to: @VShawn on GitHub. App should be ported to .NET 5 as it is the only version of net moving forward. Split from #26

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

find it maybe not a very good timeing for Desktop application with .NET 5.

I build a .NET 5 based application for test recently, coding is smooth with Net5, but the deployment is stuck, and I dont see much benefits on UI or UX with Net5 now.

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Version	built-in	support win10
.net framework 4.8	win10 1903 and above	win10 1607 and above
.net 5	none built-in	win10 1607 and above

since .net 5 was not built-in in any win10 version, our user have to install .net 5 runtime themselves, while our current version with .net framework 4.8 most people can run app without any runtime installation.

I test my new test .net5 app on my workmate‘s companies, none of them can run directly. Double click the exe, nothing happen,no window shows no runtime error report.

while .net framework4.7 application run on none-4.7-runtime machine:

self-contained deployment mode.

in this mode, app will built-in .net5 runtime, this works on my workmate‘s companies, only the app become huge:

2MB -> 132MB

which means our user may have to dowload a huge package in this deployment mode, the single exe is nice by the way.

Microsoft Store

not test yet, doubt how they fix the runtime problem.

@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): # find it maybe not a very good timeing for Desktop application with .NET 5. I build a .NET 5 based application for test recently, coding is smooth with Net5, but the deployment is stuck, and I dont see much benefits on UI or UX with Net5 now. ## environment install |Version| built-in| support win10| |---|--|--| |[.net framework 4.8](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/migration-guide/versions-and-dependencies)|win10 1903 and above| win10 1607 and above| |.net 5 | none built-in | win10 1607 and above| since .net 5 was not built-in in any win10 version, our user have to install .net 5 runtime themselves, while our current version with .net framework 4.8 most people can run app without any runtime installation. I test my new test .net5 app on my workmate‘s companies, none of them can run directly. Double click the exe, nothing happen,no window shows no runtime error report. while .net framework4.7 application run on none-4.7-runtime machine: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10143738/109097595-9a096100-775a-11eb-9f87-c878032e7939.png) ## self-contained deployment mode. ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10143738/109095302-69272d00-7756-11eb-8488-6fd6795de5d5.png) in this mode, app will built-in .net5 runtime, this works on my workmate‘s companies, only the app become huge: 2MB -> 132MB which means our user may have to dowload a huge package in this deployment mode, the single exe is nice by the way. ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10143738/109095614-126e2300-7757-11eb-9f16-ac81386cd6d6.png) ### Microsoft Store not test yet, doubt how they fix the runtime problem.

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@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

Sounds reasonable.

coding is smooth

Coding speed is one of the major benefits and attraction of new contributors. Its not everything about end users. Not sure if that is one of your goals tho.

user have to install .net 5 runtime themselves

Yeah they do, once. 100MB+ is something you get when you include entire framework, however you can cherry pick parts of it to reduce it. Also, even if PRM brings dotNet framework with itself, it could do it only once so updates will be fast.

Downloading 100MB is not big deal nowdays, many apps are in that range, particularly electron apps that bring entire browser with itself.

Old framework is dead technology too.

Be all that as it is, you might be right, that timing is not good. However, I think you should at least not use any library that doesn't have .NET5 version because once when all those problems go away, you will have much easier time switching over...

@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): Sounds reasonable. > coding is smooth Coding speed is one of the major benefits and attraction of new contributors. Its not everything about end users. Not sure if that is one of your goals tho. > user have to install .net 5 runtime themselves Yeah they do, once. 100MB+ is something you get when you include entire framework, however you can cherry pick parts of it to reduce it. Also, even if PRM brings dotNet framework with itself, it could do it only once so updates will be fast. Downloading 100MB is not big deal nowdays, many apps are in that range, particularly electron apps that bring entire browser with itself. Old framework is dead technology too. Be all that as it is, you might be right, that timing is not good. However, I think you should at least not use any library that doesn't have .NET5 version because once when all those problems go away, you will have much easier time switching over...

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

I think you should at least not use any library that doesn't have .NET5 version because once when all those problems go away, you will have much easier time switching over...

this has been taken into consideration since PRM was 0.01. In all libaray I used, Dragablz is the only one that does not support .net core https://github.com/ButchersBoy/Dragablz/issues/231. expecting Dragablz update or find a replacement library.

@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): > I think you should at least not use any library that doesn't have .NET5 version because once when all those problems go away, you will have much easier time switching over... this has been taken into consideration since PRM was 0.01. In all libaray I used, Dragablz is the only one that does not support .net core https://github.com/ButchersBoy/Dragablz/issues/231. expecting Dragablz update or find a replacement library.

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@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

There is a fork for Dragablz that supports it.

@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): There is a fork for Dragablz that supports it.

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

https://github.com/miroiu/Dragablz? this fork has been deleted

@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): https://github.com/miroiu/Dragablz? this fork has been deleted

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@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

https://www.nuget.org/packages/Dragablz.NetCore/

@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): https://www.nuget.org/packages/Dragablz.NetCore/

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@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021):

Ah, its unlisted.... ignore

@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2021): Ah, its unlisted.... ignore

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 26, 2021):

Double click the exe, nothing happen,no window shows no runtime error repor

it was shown when running on my win server 2019

@VShawn commented on GitHub (Feb 26, 2021): > Double click the exe, nothing happen,no window shows no runtime error repor it was shown when running on my win server 2019 ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10143738/109242994-16617a00-7817-11eb-9274-f74848698e2e.png)

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@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Apr 8, 2021):

FYI, there is no plan to include .NET5 distribution in the Windows out of the box:

https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/4600

@majkinetor commented on GitHub (Apr 8, 2021): FYI, there is no plan to include .NET5 distribution in the Windows out of the box: * https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/4600

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Nov 10, 2021):

.net 6 lts is released now.

@VShawn commented on GitHub (Nov 10, 2021): .net 6 lts is released now.

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@VShawn commented on GitHub (Apr 23, 2022):